Chapter 4
The Cloning Technology: Mark I through Mark IV
"Human cloning—I have to tell you, it's been done since the end of World War 2."
The Claim Nobody Is Ready For
If the Vril represent the biological horror at the center of Marshall's testimony, the cloning technology represents its operational backbone. Cloning is what allows the system to function at the scale Marshall claims—enabling the elite to meet in secret every night without leaving their beds, and making the blackmail, the mind control, the entertainment, the punishments, and the species-level infiltration he describes logistically possible.
Marshall's claim about cloning is straightforward: "Human cloning—I have to tell you, it's been done since the end of World War 2."
He speaks of something far beyond theoretical capability or the limited, public-facing cloning achievements the scientific mainstream has acknowledged—Dolly the sheep in 1996, the various cloned animals that followed. He is claiming a technology that has been operational for over seventy years, kept entirely within classified programs, and refined through multiple generations of development that he labels Mark I through Mark IV.
"People think that technology isn't that advanced yet with cloning, because they just cloned the sheep, right? No. They've been cloning people a long time this way."
The Origin: Operation Paperclip and the Abandoned Base
Marshall traces the origin of the cloning technology to the immediate aftermath of World War II, connecting it to what he describes as the discovery of pre-existing infrastructure:
"It was an abandoned underground Atlantean base. They used to call themselves the Thule. Well, they had an abandoned base down there. They found all kinds of stuff, and they back-engineered all kinds of stuff."
"The Vril Society from Germany started doing it, and then the Americans took their stuff, and the Russians took some stuff too, and then they all started making stuff."
The historical context for this claim is documented, even if Marshall's specific assertions are not.
Operation Paperclip was a verified United States government program, running from 1945 to 1959, that recruited approximately 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians to work for the U.S. government. The program was initially secret and operated despite President Truman's explicit order that active supporters of Nazi ideology be excluded. The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) and its successor, the CIA, created false employment histories and expunged or sanitized the Nazi records of the recruits to circumvent the order.
Among the Paperclip scientists were specialists in rocketry (Wernher von Braun), aviation medicine (Hubertus Strughold, whose experiments at Dachau involved subjecting prisoners to extreme conditions), and biological and chemical weapons research. What was not documented—or rather, what was classified at levels that remain inaccessible—were the full inventories of German research programs that the Allies captured.
The Thule Society that Marshall references is also historically documented. Founded in Munich in 1918, the Thule-Gesellschaft was a German occultist group that combined völkisch nationalism with esoteric beliefs about Aryan origins, inner-earth civilizations, and contact with hidden masters. The society's membership rolls included Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg, and Dietrich Eckart—all of whom became central figures in the Nazi Party.
The Thule Society explicitly believed in the existence of subterranean civilizations and sought contact with them. If such contact was achieved—and if the technology Marshall describes was among the results—the capture and classification of that technology by Allied forces at the end of the war would be consistent with the established pattern of Operation Paperclip: take everything, classify it, and deny it publicly while exploiting it in secret programs.
Mark I: The Organic Robotoid
"Mark I was around at the end of World War 2. But it was a primitive clone. Lots of side effects."
Marshall describes the first generation of cloning technology as crude but functional. The term he uses—"Organic Robotoid"—is notable:
"This is even on the net. Before I started blasting on the net about this, somebody said something about the Mark I to IV clones, and the first one being called the Organic Robotoid. And that's what it was called, even though there's no robotic parts in it at all."
The term "Organic Robotoid" does appear in conspiracy literature predating Marshall's disclosures, most notably in the writings of Peter Beter, a former general counsel of the Export-Import Bank of the United States, who in the late 1970s and early 1980s produced a series of audio tapes alleging that various world leaders had been replaced by "organic robotoids"—biological duplicates created through classified technology. Beter's claims were dismissed as paranoid delusion, but the specificity of his terminology and his former position in government have kept his work alive in certain research circles.
Marshall's reference to Beter's work—acknowledging that the terminology existed before his own disclosures—is either an honest admission that he is not the sole source for these claims, or an attempt to ground his testimony in a pre-existing body of research. In either case, it suggests a lineage of disclosure attempts going back decades, each dismissed in isolation, each contributing terminology to a framework that Marshall claims to be describing from direct experience.
Mark II: The REM-Driven Clone
The Mark II is the technology Marshall describes in the most detail, because it is the technology he says was used on him for over thirty years.
"Mark II is an REM-driven clone. What that means is, when you go to sleep, the Illuminati—this is their main form of communication too. They don't call people on the phone. They don't meet at the Bohemian Grove anymore. Since they got cloning, they meet at the cloning station when they go to sleep."
The concept is this: a genetic duplicate of a person is grown in a tank, maintained in a dormant state with minimal life signs and a feeding tube, and stored on a rack alongside thousands of other dormant duplicates. When the original person falls asleep and enters REM (rapid eye movement) sleep—the phase of sleep associated with dreaming, which typically begins approximately 90 minutes after sleep onset—a machine detects this state and triggers the transfer of consciousness from the sleeping original to the waiting clone.
"They just have a machine next to your clone that's on a rack, and it's laying there like a dead body, breathing real shallow and stuff, and it's got a feeding tube down the throat. And when a light comes on a machine next to your clone, it says: 'Well, this light says that you're in REM sleep, full REM sleep,' and they can activate you."
"If they activate you before that, you'll be all disoriented and go psycho and stuff."
The activation is done with what Marshall describes as a simple control device: "Just like a TV remote control looking thing. Look over and they point at him and press a button. Usually they have one designated to just that person, tuned in just them."
"And then the person just goes, 'Oh,' looks around. And like me, I say, 'Ah damn, I'm in this place again.'"
The experience in the clone body is, Marshall insists, indistinguishable from waking reality: "It's clear as day. It's not like having a dream unless they drug you. If you're there, you're totally coherent, and you can't pinch yourself and wake up or slap yourself."
The connection between the original body and the clone is maintained through what Marshall describes as a tether: "If you wake up in real life, your clone will drop limp to the floor. Like Avatar."
The comparison to James Cameron's 2009 film Avatar is one that Marshall makes repeatedly. In the film, the protagonist Jake Sully lies in a pod and transfers his consciousness to a genetically engineered Na'vi body, which goes limp when the connection is severed. The parallels to Marshall's description of REM-driven cloning are exact:
- Consciousness is transferred from a reclining original body to a duplicate
- The duplicate is fully operational and experienced as real
- Severing the connection (waking up) causes the duplicate to collapse
- Multiple people can operate duplicates simultaneously in the same location
Cameron's film does not explain the origin of its central concept. Marshall claims to know exactly where it came from: "They made the Avatar movie. They own Hollywood."
The Growth Process
"They're grown in 5 months. Big glass tank full of like salty water. Just takes 5 months."
Marshall describes the clone growth process in terms that are deceptively simple:
"What they used to do with the tissue—well, they could also... they used to set this little oil drill-looking thing over a person's forearm, strap their arm to a chair, and this drill—it had things on it that opened up. Now it would go in, and when it spun, these things would open up, but then when it stopped, the things would close again."
"It has to agitate the tissue. They told me when I was a kid—to a certain degree, I guess, like they said—the easiest way to tell a person in layman's terms about it is: you know when you have a hangnail and you pull it off and the white stuff that accumulates inside, and eventually it'll form like a scab and new skin and it'll grow over? Well, to get that white stuff to really work good, they agitate the tissue a certain amount of times."
"Now they just agitate blood from like a blood sample. They put it in this other liquid, like a Petri dish, and it just sets to healing and healing and healing and healing. And after a time, after they monitor it, it can make an entirely another person."
"It's not as complicated as people would think, they said. It's very simple, actually. It doesn't even cost that much—just the maintenance, because it just grows by itself."
The biological principle Marshall describes—tissue agitation triggering a regenerative cascade—is not as far-fetched as it might initially appear. Induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs), first demonstrated by Shinya Yamanaka in 2006 (Nobel Prize, 2012), showed that mature cells can be reprogrammed to an embryonic-like state capable of developing into any cell type. The jump from iPSCs to full organism generation is enormous, but the underlying principle—that cellular identity can be reset and regrowth triggered—is established science.
Marshall also references earlier tissue-sourcing methods: "They used to use kids' foreskins that were discarded at the hospital that got removed. That's what happened to me." And: "I guess they said the cells from a woman's pap smear is like really rich in the cells to make one of these duplicate clones."
"But now they said they've upgraded the technology in the last ten years. So now they only need blood."
The five-month growth cycle is one of the most specific and repeatedly cited details in Marshall's testimony. It is also the detail that connects to one of the more unusual cultural cross-references in the readme document: Kris Jenner's comment, "I made her in 5 months," regarding Khloé Kardashian. Whether this was a slip of the tongue, a joke, or something else entirely, its alignment with Marshall's stated timeline is precise enough to warrant notation.
Clone Storage and Maintenance
"The racks are like multiple stainless steel bunk beds, sometimes 5 high. And they're all around. It's like a giant vampire crypt or something. There's all these bodies laying there."
The image Marshall paints is industrial—a warehouse of dormant bodies, racked and maintained like inventory, far removed from the popular image of a secret lab with a single clone in a vat.
"Well, I don't even know how the things live, because even when not in use, they still breathe shallow and the heart still beats and stuff. When not in use, they put a tube down the clone's throat, a feeding tube, and you get fed this beige nutritional supplement."
"When they come out, when they wake up and stuff—like when I open up my eyes there, they've already done it for me, and sometimes put on clothes and already out somewhere sitting somewhere, and then they activate me."
The clones are not fully alive in the conventional sense when dormant. They are in a state of minimal biological function—breathing, circulatory activity, metabolic maintenance—sustained by the feeding apparatus. When consciousness is transferred in, the clone becomes fully operational. When consciousness is withdrawn, it returns to dormancy, or if the deactivation is abrupt (the original person waking up), it simply collapses.
"Some of the clones, their broken elbows, smash their heads off the concrete floor, so they always stay seated in the stands, in case they ever wake up and look—they just fall over."
This detail—the practical accommodation for the sudden collapse of deactivated clones—is the kind of mundane logistical observation that gives Marshall's testimony its peculiar texture. A fabricated account would tend toward the dramatic. Marshall tends toward the operational, describing the system's workarounds for its own limitations with the matter-of-factness of someone who has lived within those limitations.
Multiple Bodies
"They can have multiple clones of you. Right now, they got chips in these clones too. So they turn you into the next clone, like within a matter of 30 seconds. Like, deactivate one clone and go over to this one and click it on."
"I've experienced it. Everything goes black. You don't have dreams anymore."
The capacity for multiple simultaneous clones of a single person opens operational possibilities that Marshall describes in detail:
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Continuous interrogation or torture: If one clone body is damaged beyond use, the subject can be transferred to a fresh one within seconds. "New body, new body, new body—because they make multiples of people."
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Redundancy: "Some people are grown in the tank with deformities and they just scrap those and throw them in the chipper. But the other ones, they keep them for backup bodies until they wear out the first one."
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The "Megadeth" deterrent: If a person's original body is killed, their consciousness can theoretically be reactivated in successive clones indefinitely, with no "anchor body" to wake up to. This creates a scenario of potentially infinite suffering—death without finality. Marshall says this is used as the ultimate deterrent against whistleblowers.
"They can bring you back to life after you're dead. Have you reactivated into clone after clone and just killed one after the other. And there's no waking up in your bed the next day, because you don't have an anchor body anymore. You just keep going, one after the other, getting killed and killed and killed."
Mark III: The Autonomous Clone
"Mark III is a run-around-all-the-time clone. Like, no REM needed."
Where Mark II clones require the original person to be in REM sleep for consciousness transfer, Mark III clones can operate independently. Marshall describes two modes:
"There's 2 different ways they can have it run around: as a set consciousness, or they can do a duality thing where—it's weird—you have to in real life do absolutely nothing and totally concentrate on walking and talking around as this clone. You get like a weird double vision type of thing. You gotta close your eyes and concentrate."
The "duality" mode—simultaneous consciousness in two bodies—is described as difficult and imperfect: "They don't go so good."
Mark III clones, operating in "set consciousness" mode, are essentially autonomous copies of a person, running on a fixed version of their neural pattern. These copies can walk, talk, and interact, but they are cognitively degraded:
"Clones—well, these duplication clones—can't walk around in public without what they call a handler. They have to be babysat so that they don't bite someone on the face or start a fire in a house. They go with the first impulse."
Marshall compares this to the Family Guy episode where Stewie Griffin creates a defective clone of himself: "Is that sort of what we're talking about here?" the interviewer asks. "It could be," Marshall replies. "They make that cartoon."
Mark IV: The State of the Art
"Mark IV is supposed to be, like, top of the line. I don't even know that much about them."
Marshall's knowledge of Mark IV technology is limited, which he attributes to its restricted distribution even within the system. What he does describe is a clone capable of operating in public without a handler—a significant improvement over Mark III.
He provides a specific anecdote: "Hillary Clinton got caught on camera in her Mark IV, in 2 different places in the country. On purpose."
"She actually got in trouble at the cloning station because they were like, 'You were seen on camera on purpose in your double.' And she was like, 'No, it was an accident.' But she just wanted to discover it. They all want to discover it so that they can get away."
This anecdote contains a claim within a claim: not only does Marshall assert the existence of functional Mark IV clones, but he asserts that the individuals who use them want the technology to be discovered. The implication is that many of the system's participants are not willing collaborators but coerced ones, trapped by the same technology that empowers them. Public discovery would, paradoxically, be their liberation—but the system's enforcers will punish any attempt to force that discovery.
The Consciousness Transfer Chip
The final technological element Marshall describes is not cloning per se, but a related technology: consciousness transfer via microchip.
"A bunch of billionaires were scared about dying. They said they were so rich they can make people die. They can start wars. They can do anything in the material world, but once they die, they can't even take it with them. They're just dead."
"So a bunch of billionaires got together and said, 'We don't want to die. We want to figure out how to live again as clones.'"
The result was a microchip capable of storing and transferring a person's complete neural identity:
"The thing used to be as big as a circuit board. They whittled it down so that the microchip is supposedly the size of just a bit bigger than an apple seed."
"It can totally—and it's a flawed copy as well, but not as flawed—it can totally hold your mental stuff, right? Everything that you are, basically."
Marshall says the technology was tested on an unwitting subject: "They tested this on a Chinese farmer. They showed me the video clips. Had to stick out the guy's head and everything. Didn't compensate him, just sent him back home and said they had to do something to him."
The chip enables a technological version of what the Vril accomplish biologically: consciousness transfer into another body. It can be implanted in a clone or in a living human—effectively "body snatching" through technology rather than parasitism.
"Just like those lizards do with the eyeball thing and squiggling into the head, rich people can put their stuff on a microchip and set this into somebody's head and basically body snatch them that way as well."
The convergence of biological parasitism (Vril droning) and technological parasitism (chip-based body snatching) represents, in Marshall's framework, two paths to the same destination: the replacement of one consciousness with another inside a human body. The biological version serves the Vril's species-level agenda. The technological version serves the human elite's personal agenda of immortality.
Both versions produce imperfect results. Both require maintenance and monitoring. And both, Marshall claims, are in active operation.
The Verification Problem
The cloning technology Marshall describes exists in a frustrating epistemological space. It is detailed enough to be specific, consistent enough to resist easy dismissal, and completely impossible to verify without access to classified facilities.
However, the cultural traces of the technology—if it exists—should be detectable. And they are.
Britney Spears' Break the Ice (2008) depicts a futuristic facility with rows of glass tubes containing bodies, which are destroyed by the protagonist. Marshall claims Spears deliberately encoded a depiction of real cloning infrastructure in the video.
The film The Island (2005) depicts clones maintained in an underground facility, unaware of their nature, harvested for their organs. The film Moon (2009) depicts a lone worker on a lunar base who discovers he is one of many sequential clones. The series Orphan Black (2013–2017) depicts a woman who discovers she is one of numerous genetically identical clones created by a secret program.
These are works of fiction. They may reflect nothing more than the creative exploration of a compelling science fiction premise. But the density of cloning narratives in popular entertainment, combined with Marshall's claims about elite control of Hollywood content, creates a pattern that is at minimum suggestive.
"They make all the movies and stuff," Marshall says. "They made the Avatar movie. They own Hollywood."
Whether Hollywood's fascination with cloning reflects insider knowledge or simply the zeitgeist, the thematic alignment with Marshall's testimony is consistent. And the question the reader must confront is this: if the technology existed, would we expect anything other than exactly this pattern—a proliferation of fictional treatments that simultaneously normalize the concept and inoculate the public against believing it could be real?
In the next chapter, we examine the facilities themselves—where they are, what they look like, and how their locations align with independently verifiable geographic and geological data.